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8th July 2020 12:33
Pops
Update

A quick update for all you water ingress sufferers,
Since my “Strip out, Seal and Refit” endeavours, I have had no water making it’s way into the car.
I firmly believe the majority of the problem lies with the air vents behind the rear bumper, it seems that after a few years, the once pliable edge seal loses it “Springiness”, I know that I could rattle the vents around in their respective apertures and even witnessed water droplets disappearing behind the vertical joint face. We have had plenty of rain since and the car has stayed bone dry (apart from last week when my son in law parked it with the Back window open, then we had a thunderstorm ), that hiccup aside, no puddles, wet carpets or heavy condensation.
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Originally Posted by Pops View Post
Hi Nobby, I think you’re right about Ford pre-empting water getting in.
I suspect that the bit of material in the corner cavity / void behind the Rear vents is there to absorb any water that finds it’s way in.
The material is no good as sound deadening (too light and flimsy) and is more like absorbent wadding.
Then because of the natural (and designed) air flow through the rear vents , that bit of material will dry out ready for the next downpour. The black sticky tape was probably applied as a second barrier to water entering the car.
I was considering drilling a drain hole in each corner cavity when I had the vents out for sealing but seeing all the road dirt that gets washed up behind the bumper, I thought I’d give it a miss (unless I get more problems in the future).

All the best to all you (Happy / Not so happy (Dry / Wet)) B max owners.
12th March 2020 16:46
Nobby Clark So far...and we've had a few downpours..the car has stayed dry. The drain holes are working as puddles appear on the drive as she sets off....but how the water is enering the other side of those taped-over little holes is beyond me!


Drain holes have worked, along with replacing the little sticky tape squares with UV resistant silicon sealant ( Dow Corning 799 ) And I've got rolled up towels next to the silicon should it fail to seal...at least the wate risn't going anywhere then.




The thing is...water still gets to the 'outside' of that silicon, but I have actually sealed around every seam, bulb holder and window in the vicinity. How does it still get there?


I know it's a bodge but my wife was getting pretty upset by this...we've spent over £500 with an engineer trying to sort this leak out! So I went mad with the sealant.




Fingers croswsed it hold. Should you get desparate too...make sure the sealant has at least three feet of clear air around it whilst it cures...ar it won't! I had to re-do the nearside as the black trim was too near and it failed to cure before the next rainfall.
7th March 2020 22:28
Pops
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Originally Posted by Nobby Clark View Post
Yes, but to be fair to Ford I don't think anyone has had this issue from new. 'Something' gives after a few years. There again the water gets in to the boot passing a bit of sticky black tape, suggesting someone had an idea this would happen one day.......
Hi Nobby, I think you’re right about Ford pre-empting water getting in.
I suspect that the bit of material in the corner cavity / void behind the Rear vents is there to absorb any water that finds it’s way in.
The material is no good as sound deadening (too light and flimsy) and is more like absorbent wadding.
Then because of the natural (and designed) air flow through the rear vents , that bit of material will dry out ready for the next downpour. The black sticky tape was probably applied as a second barrier to water entering the car.
I was considering drilling a drain hole in each corner cavity when I had the vents out for sealing but seeing all the road dirt that gets washed up behind the bumper, I thought I’d give it a miss (unless I get more problems in the future).

All the best to all you (Happy / Not so happy (Dry / Wet)) B max owners.
5th March 2020 10:18
Nobby Clark Yes, but to be fair to Ford I don't think anyone has had this issue from new. 'Something' gives after a few years. There again the water gets in to the boot passing a bit of sticky black tape, suggesting someone had an idea this would happen one day.......
4th March 2020 00:21
frmarcus How incompetent of Ford to create this serious problem by poor design...
2nd March 2020 16:40
Nobby Clark Fairly easy to checxk those Mike...pull the boot aperture trim away and slide your hand under the roof lining....mine was dry.


But...I do have water getting into the boot lid itself....so maybe.......


It drips out the join between lower and upper boot lid trim at the extreme left and right edges....drips into the boot sometimes as you open the lid. if there's a breeze.
2nd March 2020 14:01
B-Max-Mike After all my work on mine I still have water coming in , When I get chance my next area to seal is around the two cable/pipe flexible ducts you can see when you have the boot open and look up to the gutter area in the centre.
2nd March 2020 08:20
Nobby Clark I can....but she apparently can't ;-)

I'll be honest, it isn't easy and I have to have two goes at it myself sometimes.


Even on level ground the boot gets wet and the rear passenger footwell though....


Heavy rain last night....nice dry boot. I'll say no more lest I jinx it!
1st March 2020 19:38
Hywel S Wales Silly question probably, can't you park on your sloping driveway other way round ?
1st March 2020 15:37
Nobby Clark Yes I've read all the threads right through...I think.


Bit of an update...We've got those painted sidepanels off and the grey plastic criss-cross boards they mount on with. VRemoved the rear doo rails and masticed behind them and on top of them after refitting.
Holes into the boot masticed over and both vents mnasticed up too. Any holes that don't serve a purpose masticed.


The car still fills with water!


It hits the masticed over holes on each side so hard it pushes its way through eventually...the water making its way forward past the rear seat mountings and into the rear footwell. Parked on a slope facing downwards the water travels under two crossmembers and gets right forward to the firewall soundproofing that wicks it up.


It literally gets from one ened of thew car to theother under the carpets!


I've semi cured the problem by drilling several holes through the sloping metal INSIDE the holes that leak into the boot area and then chiseling them into one big hole to let the water drain out. I then used aquarium grade silicon sealant to close over the hole sinto the boot..the ones that Ford put a bit of black tape over.


I've removed all soundproofing wading and foam pads.


I even siliconed all around the edges of the painted rear panel next to the rear quarterlight...but STILL water is getting in and dripping through my newly created holes...just not into the boot anymore!




I siliconed around all the grey plastic in the boot aperture too, but I don't think this or the light cluster is the cause........the holes I created are through a panel of metal that goes way up above those....Lord knows how the water gets into there.




At least the boot is now dry and the car windows don't mist up anymore, but what I've done is just a bodge...the water is still getting in where it shouldn't....and didn't for five years........but now it's a quart everytime it rains, but at least it's not in the car.




Three months in and out of the garage....and it still isn't fixed. Why aren't Ford on this????






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